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Whether you are interested in taking up flying as a career or for recreational purposes, Liverpool Flying School can cater for all your needs.

People from all walks of life have learned to fly with us.  Teenagers, students, professionals, mums, dads and retirees have all successfully qualified for their Private Pilot's or Commercial Pilot's Licence.

Flying is more than a new interest.  Flying is a new way of life - it will literally broaden your horizon and add a completely new dimension to your life.

You will never forget the unbelievable experience of your first solo flight!

Liverpool Flying School can offer something special to anyone interested in aircraft and aviation.  For example, you may have started your flight training elsewhere and would like to finish it with us.  Or you already have your pilot's licence and would like to get endorsed on one of our aircraft; or you may even be looking at furthering your skills.  No matter what your objectives are, we can tailor your flight training to suit your needs.  We are a small, select team of experienced professionals who are focussed on helping you become a safe and competent pilot.

About Camden Airport

Camden Airport is located in a picturesque rural setting, about 60 km southwest of the Sydney CBD and about 5 km from historic Camden.  The airport can be reached from the City via the M5, Narellan Rd, Camden Valley Way, Kirkham La, Macquarie Grove Rd and Aerodrome Rd in about 45-50 minutes.  Detailed maps of Camden Airport access and surrounding districts can be obtained from www.whereis.com.au.

At Camden you spend less time and money on the ground taxying or waiting for clearance to take off or land than at Bankstown, the busiest training airport in Australia.  Remember that your paying lesson lasts from engine start-up to engine shutdown! 

A sizeable amount of flight training is conducted in the "training area", a large area to the west of Bankstown.   All Sydney flying schools, irrespective of which airport they are based at, use this area. 

Due to Mascot's controlled airspace requirements, Bankstown-based students are forced to fly twice as far to the training area as their Camden counterparts to conduct training at higher levels.

In brief, at Camden Airport you can expect more dedicated training in every lesson.

Because Camden Airport is uncontrolled on weekdays, you the pilot, not an Air Traffic Controller in the tower, decides which runway should be used for take-off and landing; how to depart and approach the airfield safely; when it is safe to take off and land; and how to maintain separation from other traffic.  You are taught to make sound command decisions from an early training stage, a skill that is crucial, particularly for the aspiring professional pilot.

 

 

However, on weekends and selected public holidays, Camden's Air Traffic Control Tower is operational, and you are provided with an excellent opportunity to learn how to operate in a controlled environment.

 

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Liverpool Flying School

ABN :   35 003 022 744
   
Tel: 1 300 853 007 Enquiries, Admin & Finance

02 4655 9602 Flight Operations

   
Email:  info@liverpoolflyingschool.com.au
   

Office Hours:

 

 

 

6 days  from 8.00 AM to 5.00 PM - closed on Tuesdays

 

 

 

Physical Location :

 

c/- Phoenix Aero Club

Building 766    (on entering the airport, turn right and follow the access road past the air traffic control tower to the last building)

Camden Airport

Aerodrome Road

Cobbitty, NSW 2570

 

 

Postal Address:

 

P.O. Box 4

Hoxton Park, NSW 2171

 

 

                                     

 

Getting started in aviation

The best way to "test the water" is to call or come and see us to book a Trial Instructional Flight (TIF).  A TIF is an inexpensive way to experience flight first hand with one of our instructors.  The TIF is an abridged first lesson, which comprises a 20-min. pre-flight briefing and a 30-min. hands-on flight.  You are under no obligation to continue your training with us; however it is the best way for you to assess if Liverpool Flying School is the right flight training school for you.  Like most people, you will want to continue your lessons, in which case the instructional flight will count towards your Private Pilot's Licence training hours. 

 

Liverpool Flying School can offer you a TIF in one of our Beechcraft Skippers for just $120 inc. GST, landing and tower fees.  Do call us to make a booking, we are open 6 days a week (closed on Tuesdays).

                            

How long does it take to become a pilot?

Learning to fly is not difficult, however it requires your commitment to studying and to practicing what you have learnt.

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA), which issues licences, publishes a syllabus that details the minimum training requirements to be carried out by an approved flying school. 

 

On average it takes about 65 hours of flight training time to get your Private Pilot's Licence (PPL).  Some people will take less time, while others will take longer.

The training includes basic aircraft handling, emergency procedures and navigation.

How long it will take you will depend on how often you fly.  If you fly every day, you will progress quicker than if you were to fly only once a month, because you won't have to repeat what you forget in between lessons.  Flying every day will get you a PPL in about 8-10 weeks, weather permitting.  Flying once or twice a week will get you a PPL in about 12-18 months depending on good weather conditions.

You need to be 16 years old before your instructor can send you off solo.  You can, however, commence your flight training at an earlier age, if you like.  You must be 17 years old before your instructor can recommend you for the PPL flight test.

 How long does a lesson take?

Each lesson takes about 1 hour.  However, from the time you arrive at the flying school to the time you leave may take over 2 hours due to the necessary pre-flight and post flight briefings.

At the briefings we discuss what you are going to do, how your lesson went, where you need to do more work, and what you will be learning in your next lesson.  These standard briefings are free of charge.

Do I need a medical examination?

Before your first solo flight (about 10-20 hours), you will need to get a medical examination from a Designated Aviation Medical Examiner (DAME).   The medical is not rigorous.

You will need to list your medical history, and as long as you have reasonable vision (with or without glasses) and no debilitating illness, you will pass the medical.

If you suspect that you may have a problem passing the medical, then it is a good idea to get the examination done prior to commencing any flight training.

What kind of licences are there?

Upon completion of your basic training (about 40-45 hours avg.) and after passing the Basic Aeronautical Knowledge (BAK) exam, your instructor will recommend you for the General Flying Progress Test (GFPT).  Once you have passed the test you will be able to take passengers into the local training area.

Following the GFPT, you will need to undertake a series of cross-country navigation exercises in order to learn to navigate confidently.  This normally requires upgrading from our 2-seat Skipper trainer to our bigger, faster 4-seat Sundowner touring aircraft.

                                                                                

Upon completion of your navigation training (about 20 hours avg.) and after passing your PPL exam, your instructor will recommend you for the PPL flight test.  Once you have passed this test you will be able to travel anywhere in Australia with passengers, in any aircraft you are endorsed on.  Most flying schools will hire you their aircraft after an initial check flight.

Once you have your PPL, you may wish to do some advanced flight training.  You can get a night rating (about 12 hours avg.) or an instrument rating (allowing you to fly in clouds), or even get a commercial pilot's licence (minimum 150 hours total flight time which includes PPL Part 1 & 2), which will allow you to get paid to fly.  Or for real fun, we can train you in aerobatics!

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Following is an outline of our CASA-approved courses.  Please note that course costs are based on minimum hours only.   As each student's aptitude is different, dual hours may need to be extended to ensure a student pilot reaches the required flight test standard.  We provide headsets and basic flight briefings up to GFPT, and exams up to and inc. BAK free of charge

All course estimates are effective from 01.02.10, are subject to change without notice and include GST (unless otherwise stated), fuel, oil and insurance but exclude landing & tower fees. 

No lump sum payments are required up front - you pay as you go.

 

PRIVATE PILOT'S LICENCE COURSE - PART 1 (GFPT)

25.0 hours dual (Skipper) @ $231/hour $5,775.00
5.0 hours solo @ $171/hour $855.00
1.5 hours licence test @ $231/hour $346.50
  TOTAL $6,976.50

 

PRIVATE PILOT'S LICENCE COURSE - PART 2 (PPL)

13.0 hours dual (Sundowner) @ $266/hour $3,458.00
5.0 hours solo @ $211/hour $1,055.00
3.0 hours licence test @ $266/hour $798.00
  TOTAL  $5.311.00

                                                                                  

 

COMMERCIAL PILOT'S LICENCE COURSE (CPL)

150-hour minimum course approved by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.  This course includes Private Pilot's Licence Course (Part 1 & 2), optional Twin Engine Endorsement and an introduction to aerobatics and tail wheel operations in the Super Decathlon, but it excludes exam coaching (if required).  We provide standard pre- and post flight briefings free of charge.  You need to be 18 years old before your instructor can recommended you for the CPL flight test.

150.0 hours dual and solo (various aircraft types) $34,800 (GST free)

 

INSTRUCTOR RATING COURSE

50.0 hours dual (various aircraft types) incl. theory tuition, excl. flight test

 $15,000 (GST free)

THEORY TUITION

To prepare for the BAK, PPL and CPL exams, most students prefer to study in their own time utilising the proven Aviation Theory Centre's home study kits, which we can order in for you, if you like.  Alternatively, we can offer you one-on-one tuition for $66 per hour inc. GST, if applicable.

OTHER ADVANCED TRAINING COURSES

Please note that course costs are estimates only.  As each student's aptitude is different, dual hours may need to be extended to ensure a student pilot reaches the required flight test/check flight standard.  We provide standard pre- and post flight briefings free of charge.

All course estimates are effective from 01.02.10, are subject to change without notice and include GST (unless otherwise stated), fuel, oil and insurance but exclude landing & tower fees. 

 

NIGHT VISUAL FLIGHT RULES (NVFR) RATING

11.0 hours dual (Sundowner) @ $272/hour $2,992.00
2.5 hours licence test @ $272/hour $680.00
  TOTAL $3,672.00

                                                                                                                               

COMMAND INSTRUMENT RATING COURSE (CIR)

12.0 hours dual (Sundowner)* @ $266/hour $3,192.00
25.0 hours dual (Sierra) @ $301/hour $7,525.00
3.0 hours rating test (Sierra) @ $301/hour $903.00
  TOTAL $11,620.00

* Optional - could be conducted on CASA-approved simulator

 

AEROBATIC RATING COURSE

7.0 hours dual (Super Decathlon) @ $301/hour $2,107.00
3.0 hours solo @ $241/hour $723.00
  TOTAL $2,830.00

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Can I carry passengers?

Student pilots cannot carry passengers on training flights.  However, once you have passed the General Flying Progress Test (GFPT), you can carry passengers while operating in the local training area.

Private pilots can carry as many passengers as the aircraft can legally hold (normally three in most touring aircraft).  The gross weight of the aircraft and its centre of gravity are also limiting factors, especially when carrying a full load plus baggage.

Only commercial pilots can get paid to fly people around.  However, private pilots can get their passengers to contribute to the cost of hiring an aircraft.

Where can I fly to?

Student pilots can fly in the local training area of their aerodrome.

In Sydney, aircraft from Bankstown and Camden Airports all share the same training area, which is located to the west of Bankstown towards Warragamba Dam and down to the south past Camden.

Once you have passed the General Flying Progress Test (GFPT), you will be allowed to take passengers into the training area.

Private pilots can travel anywhere in Australia from capital city airports to the open expanses of the outback.

Our Aircraft

Liverpool Flying School operates a fleet of modern Beechcraft aeroplanes, recognised as some of the best light aircraft produced, as well as a Bellanca Super Decathlon, acknowledged as one of the finest aerobatic trainers available today.

The 2-seat Beechcraft Skippers are used for the ab-initio (beginner) training.  Beechcraft has purposely designed and developed this aircraft for over 6 years to make it one of the best training aeroplanes in existence.  The Skipper has the same general panel and control layout as the bigger Beechcraft Sundowner, Sierra and Duchess, allowing our students to progress to those larger and more complex aircraft with ease and in the shortest possible time.  Finally, we can offer you something very special.  The Bellanca Super Decathlon is one of only a few of these superb, fully aerobatic aeroplanes available for training in Australia.

   Beechcraft Skipper

                    

                                               Beechcraft Sundowner

                                                               

            Beechcraft Sierra

  

                                                      Bellanca Super Decathlon

                                                               

                                                       

About Us

Liverpool Flying School is owned and operated by Rene Ledergerber, our Chief Pilot & Chief Flight Instructor, and Ruth Klingler, our Admin & Finance Manager.

Rene has been flying for over 38 years, in which he has logged well in excess of 14,000 hours of charter and instructional flight.  He is also an Approved Testing Officer (ATO) and conducts Private Pilot's Licence and Commercial Pilot's Licence Tests on behalf of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.

Rene is, of course, a Grade 1 Flight Instructor with multi-engine and Instrument Flight Rules (IFR) endorsements, and he has an outstanding safety record.

Rene is assisted by a small, select team of Flight Instructors - Gary, Mike and Adam - who were chosen for their professionalism,  excellent airmanship and pleasant personality.

Why is Liverpool Flying School different from others?

Of course, when you do a TIF you will be able to inspect our facilities and aircraft and meet our instructors over a cup of tea or coffee. 

We do not run courses at set times but try to tailor your flight training to suit your needs.  We aim to provide you with your own personal instructor, thus offering the best possible training.  All our aircraft are well maintained and well equipped.  When taking your family or friends flying, you can rest assured that they will feel safe and comfortable flying with you.

Furthermore, we provide aerobatic and tail wheel endorsements, and can offer you various advanced flight training courses.  But most important of all, we aim to make learning to fly fun, in an informal yet professional environment, which is what flying is all about.  Do come and see us soon, we are open 6 days a week (closed on Tuesdays)!

Hourly training and hire rates effective from 01.02.10

(Rates are subject to change without notice and include GST, fuel, oil and insurance but exclude landing & tower fees.)

 AIRCRAFT TYPE

 DUAL

 SOLO

 PRIVATE HIRE

Beechcraft Skipper

 $231

$171

$171

Beechcraft Sundowner

$266

$211

$211

Beechcraft Sierra

$301

$241

$241

Bellanca Super Decathlon

$301

$241

n/a

Instructor Hire (for training in own aircraft)

$100

$55

n/a

Trial Instructional Flight (Skipper)*

$120

n/a

n/a

Theory Tuition

$66

n/a

n/a

Late Cancellation Fee** $55 n/a n/a

*    To secure your booking, payment in advance is required.

**  To avoid a late cancellation fee, please remember to give us 24 hours’ notice,  so another student can take your place.

 

Scenic flights around Sydney

We can offer you a range of scenic and aerobatic joy flights; some of the most popular flights are over the Harbour and the Blue Mountains.  All flights depart from Camden Airport and are subject to suitable weather and Air Traffic Control clearance. 

Route #1  takes about 70 min.  We will fly you over Sydney's Harbour and the world-famous Opera House, then to Manly, Narrabeen and Prospect before returning home to Camden Airport.

Only $390 per aircraft (max. 3 passengers).

 

   

 

Route #2  takes about 90 min. and initially includes the same scenery as Route #1, but after leaving Manly, we will fly you north along the coastline above Sydney's beaches to Barrenjoey Lighthouse and then home to Camden Airport via Pittwater and Cottage Point.

Only $480 per aircraft (max. 3 passengers).

 

Route #3  takes about 110 min. and includes the spectacular scenery seen on Route #2 plus the entire southern coastline from Sydney Harbour past Bondi and Cronulla to Stanwell Park in the south.

Only $570 per aircraft (max. 3 passengers).

 

Route #4  takes about 60 min. and will take you to the Blue Mountains.  We will fly you over Warragamba Dam, northwest to the Cox River and then south to Nattai via the spectacular Burragorang Valley.  Flying down the valley will enable you to look up at the cliffs and mountains!

Only $330 per aircraft (max. 3 passengers).

 

 

Route #5  is our second flight to the Blue Mountains and takes about 65 min.   In addition to the fabulous scenery experienced on Route #4 we will fly you further north to Katoomba past the "Three Sisters".

Only $360 per aircraft (max. 3 passengers).

 

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